qualleyiv
Aug 2, 11:33 PM
Hey guys, allow me to redirect the conversation here because I think you're all missing the point a little bit:
OK, so I just watched the video and all I can say is that the video demo IN NO WAY proves that they've done what they say they can do. First, the BIGGEST thing in this exploit was that this hack was supposed to work without having to connect the hacked machine to any network, yet the first thing they did in the demo was CONNECT the Mac to the Dell!!! Not to mention that they attached a third-party network adaptor (if that was even what it was). Even then, all they got was a shell for the current user.
That doesn't even start to get to the issue of what the video actually showed--which was VERY LITTLE. Just watch it, where is the proof that they even actually did the things which they claimed? I could have made that video EASILY. When I first read the report, I thought the video was going to be one of something that was done LIVE! Hardly...
OK, so I just watched the video and all I can say is that the video demo IN NO WAY proves that they've done what they say they can do. First, the BIGGEST thing in this exploit was that this hack was supposed to work without having to connect the hacked machine to any network, yet the first thing they did in the demo was CONNECT the Mac to the Dell!!! Not to mention that they attached a third-party network adaptor (if that was even what it was). Even then, all they got was a shell for the current user.
That doesn't even start to get to the issue of what the video actually showed--which was VERY LITTLE. Just watch it, where is the proof that they even actually did the things which they claimed? I could have made that video EASILY. When I first read the report, I thought the video was going to be one of something that was done LIVE! Hardly...
nemaslov
Nov 27, 12:34 PM
Granted, for new fans might be a good thing. I wonder how many new fans the Beatles have nowadays? Plus, their parents might have the songs already on cd or lp. and of course you can always go to your local cd store and buy their music.
Sorry, I don't think adding the Beatles is a big deal at all.
The only thing it might be interesting is to buy their whole complete catalog of songs just like Apple did with U2 Complete for a good price.
...and the exclusive Dylan songs with the whole catalogue oniTunes? Yes in theory we have had these songs for along time but for some reason, people love to download to their itunes from the web. You can always buy most of these CDs cheaper, even used.
Sorry, I don't think adding the Beatles is a big deal at all.
The only thing it might be interesting is to buy their whole complete catalog of songs just like Apple did with U2 Complete for a good price.
...and the exclusive Dylan songs with the whole catalogue oniTunes? Yes in theory we have had these songs for along time but for some reason, people love to download to their itunes from the web. You can always buy most of these CDs cheaper, even used.
the20pointmay
Mar 28, 11:03 PM
To have enough money to vacation to a WWDC :)
runonthespot
Jul 7, 11:11 AM
I think this is about giving OSX some of that developer love. Having watched people port their games etc to iPad, moving them to iOS on iMac should be simple enough - just another view and maybe higher res graphics if necessary. It opens up possibilities for developers and more customers.
Regarding touch on an imac- I imagine the biggest benefit of touch is the multi-touch aspect. I can imagine map & data exploration apps / programs become insanely compelling on a 22 inch screen, ergonomically slanted to be more like a surface.
Comments are right though- it feels too gimmicky for Apple. Steve Jobs has said he likes to catch technologies at a certain trajectory on the curve... this touch-screen on a big machine feels too low down on the curve and hence too big a risk for apple unless they've come up with a way to add it as a sort of "free" addition. Try to imagine the business case for a machine that has a 22" Retina display that is also a touch-screen... sounds expensive to me.
I think a flavour of iOS as a dock replacement or integrated into Finder makes some sense, opening apps (at least initially) in appropriately sized windows is, I imagine, very doable, especially as iOS is effectively just a subset of OS-X (excluding of course the touch functionality).
What I don't get is the touch "peripheral" being shown elsewhere in the forums... unless you have 5 cursors on screen (confusing), by not touching the screen itself, you introduce abstraction that just eliminates the tactile and simple nature of current multi-touch.
Finally, I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't be excited about running multitasking multitouch apps from ipad etc on an imac 22" screen!
It would make their widget concept just so much more compelling if each widget was an iphone or ipad app, all running simultaneously on screen in one go.
Regarding touch on an imac- I imagine the biggest benefit of touch is the multi-touch aspect. I can imagine map & data exploration apps / programs become insanely compelling on a 22 inch screen, ergonomically slanted to be more like a surface.
Comments are right though- it feels too gimmicky for Apple. Steve Jobs has said he likes to catch technologies at a certain trajectory on the curve... this touch-screen on a big machine feels too low down on the curve and hence too big a risk for apple unless they've come up with a way to add it as a sort of "free" addition. Try to imagine the business case for a machine that has a 22" Retina display that is also a touch-screen... sounds expensive to me.
I think a flavour of iOS as a dock replacement or integrated into Finder makes some sense, opening apps (at least initially) in appropriately sized windows is, I imagine, very doable, especially as iOS is effectively just a subset of OS-X (excluding of course the touch functionality).
What I don't get is the touch "peripheral" being shown elsewhere in the forums... unless you have 5 cursors on screen (confusing), by not touching the screen itself, you introduce abstraction that just eliminates the tactile and simple nature of current multi-touch.
Finally, I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't be excited about running multitasking multitouch apps from ipad etc on an imac 22" screen!
It would make their widget concept just so much more compelling if each widget was an iphone or ipad app, all running simultaneously on screen in one go.
Drag'nGT
Mar 29, 09:44 AM
I hope that iOS5 is as good as we all expect. More options for voice integration would be oh so welcome. Let me listen to and respond to email and texts while driving (huge wish). But seriously, it's the one thing I'll say MS did well with their Sync technology. It is such a pleasant experience to use my iPhone in the car like that. If the phone can take even more commands from my voice I'll be ecstatic.
Add free MobileMe and Apple will be set. I bet they need that double sized data center in NC we've heard about to pull this off.
Wow, my hopes are high!
Add free MobileMe and Apple will be set. I bet they need that double sized data center in NC we've heard about to pull this off.
Wow, my hopes are high!
Brandon Sharitt
Sep 4, 06:57 AM
The following is just me personal guesses as too updates to Apples hardware over the next 6 months or so, with a few coming on the 12th and most by the end of the year.
MacBook Pros updated to Core 2 Duos is a no brainer, though I'm not sure if they'd launch it at such and event, but still possible since it is a bit more than speed bump, and you know Steve would want to brag about his new 64-bit PowerBooks.
Also, the iMacs seem to be in the same boat processor wise, though which Core 2 Duo isn't quite as obvious of a choice. If they could fit a G5 in the form factor, it seems reasonable that they could get Conroe in there too, but Merom would let it run cooler. Considering the large gap between the Mac mini and Mac Pro, a 23" iMac would just make sense, unless the much hoped for Conroe based mid tower was released, though that a lot less likely than a 23" iMac, or even a 30" iMac, so don't hold your breath.
MacBooks, don't hold your breath, possibly price drops to get it to $999 again since Yonah prices have come down since launch, but don't expect a Core 2 Duo any time soon. The MacBook is already eating the MacBook Pro's launch due to the similar specs, so the Core 2 is likely to be the MacBook Pro advantage.
Like the MacBook, the Mac mini could see drops back down to G4 levels, and I would discount the Core Duos across the line, but again, don't look for the Core 2 Duo anytime soon.
As for iPods, I would expect the touch screen Video iPod to come out in time for the holiday season, though maybe not on the 12th. The reason being to compete with the Zune and the fact that there finally seems to be a deal about a movie store. As for the regular iPod, probably 40GB and 80GB versions at the current prices, with a slim chance at a 60GB model at $349. As for the nano, probably doubling of storage on all models(2GB, 4GB, 8GB) at the same price points. I wouldn't be surprised to see a 1GB nano at around $129 either. As for the shuffle, if it survives, 512MB at $49 and 1GB at around $79 or so.
MacBook Pros updated to Core 2 Duos is a no brainer, though I'm not sure if they'd launch it at such and event, but still possible since it is a bit more than speed bump, and you know Steve would want to brag about his new 64-bit PowerBooks.
Also, the iMacs seem to be in the same boat processor wise, though which Core 2 Duo isn't quite as obvious of a choice. If they could fit a G5 in the form factor, it seems reasonable that they could get Conroe in there too, but Merom would let it run cooler. Considering the large gap between the Mac mini and Mac Pro, a 23" iMac would just make sense, unless the much hoped for Conroe based mid tower was released, though that a lot less likely than a 23" iMac, or even a 30" iMac, so don't hold your breath.
MacBooks, don't hold your breath, possibly price drops to get it to $999 again since Yonah prices have come down since launch, but don't expect a Core 2 Duo any time soon. The MacBook is already eating the MacBook Pro's launch due to the similar specs, so the Core 2 is likely to be the MacBook Pro advantage.
Like the MacBook, the Mac mini could see drops back down to G4 levels, and I would discount the Core Duos across the line, but again, don't look for the Core 2 Duo anytime soon.
As for iPods, I would expect the touch screen Video iPod to come out in time for the holiday season, though maybe not on the 12th. The reason being to compete with the Zune and the fact that there finally seems to be a deal about a movie store. As for the regular iPod, probably 40GB and 80GB versions at the current prices, with a slim chance at a 60GB model at $349. As for the nano, probably doubling of storage on all models(2GB, 4GB, 8GB) at the same price points. I wouldn't be surprised to see a 1GB nano at around $129 either. As for the shuffle, if it survives, 512MB at $49 and 1GB at around $79 or so.
Designer Dale
Oct 12, 01:52 PM
Love the cat on your printer.:)
Love the blanket for the cat on the printer. Satoneko is a true cat person.
Dale
Love the blanket for the cat on the printer. Satoneko is a true cat person.
Dale
Rad99004
Apr 2, 12:06 AM
Android Phone Specs are out pacing the Iphone. An 8 Megapixel camera, bigger screen and more memory will keep me buying. IOS 5 with the rumored adobe flash would be great too.
rand0m3r
Nov 8, 06:08 AM
cool. so is this it guys? is my 4 month wait finally over? someone knock down the US store dammit!
jaduffy108
Aug 24, 12:49 PM
I *knew* there was a reason I bought the 17".... :p
oblomow
Mar 3, 04:58 AM
lone hiker
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shadowx
Sep 12, 03:22 PM
iTunes 7 installed just fine... gapless detection taking forever for about 4800 songs...
CD-TEXT option... YEAH!!! I never updated to 6.0.5, so I'm not sure if it is new... but new for me - FINALLY!
CD-TEXT option... YEAH!!! I never updated to 6.0.5, so I'm not sure if it is new... but new for me - FINALLY!
Lixivial
Oct 27, 12:30 AM
I'm definitely staying away from this update for now. Something about it actually just kind of scares me. It helps that my week 21 MacBook has only had the mooing issue and nothing else (so far). That issue has gone away with SMC Firmware Update 1.0, and I've had a great laptop ever since.
I feel rather lucky. :)
I feel rather lucky. :)
backdraft
Aug 3, 08:21 PM
The moral of the story is that to hack OS X you have to focus your effort on the closed-source software that's in there.
Everybody thinks Macs are safe because Darwin is open source, tried and tested. But we forget about all the closed-source software that is running with elevated privileges.
Or the hardware exploits... Been down hill since Intel... X86 hardware exploits likely on the way
Everybody thinks Macs are safe because Darwin is open source, tried and tested. But we forget about all the closed-source software that is running with elevated privileges.
Or the hardware exploits... Been down hill since Intel... X86 hardware exploits likely on the way
rainydays
Nov 7, 12:58 PM
Yes but it does clearly state Core 2 Duo in the product name and the release date of 13th November, they could have just copied the spec of the existing one as they are unsure of the new spec. What is telling is the date, they obviously expect it to happen on the 13th
:confused: that wasn't the point
:confused: that wasn't the point
Hisdem
Mar 14, 12:43 PM
First play with my new lens. 50mm f/1.7.
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Take Me (http://www.flickr.com/photos/maxumphoto/5526895786/) by Hisdem (http://www.flickr.com/people/maxumphoto/), on Flickr
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Take Me (http://www.flickr.com/photos/maxumphoto/5526895786/) by Hisdem (http://www.flickr.com/people/maxumphoto/), on Flickr
JayMysterio
Oct 3, 10:17 PM
The issue being that Halo proportionately seems to have a greatest number of jerks playing, as compared to say other games.
I think you're choosing to miss my point. The feeling amongst many is that Halo proportionately has the greatest collection pinheads collectively. Whether Halo had only 4 people, 3 of them would be @$$hats, while say Forza ( which does have some seriously anal players ) might have 1 out of 4 jerks. The fact that Halo is the biggest online portion of Live, is besides the point, law of averages aside.
The shame is that a game as great as Halo, somehow brings out the worse in such a large portion of it's players.
... And yes, the PA cartoon is dead on. :)
I also promise I'm done with this, I just wanted to make sure I was clear. :)
I think you're choosing to miss my point. The feeling amongst many is that Halo proportionately has the greatest collection pinheads collectively. Whether Halo had only 4 people, 3 of them would be @$$hats, while say Forza ( which does have some seriously anal players ) might have 1 out of 4 jerks. The fact that Halo is the biggest online portion of Live, is besides the point, law of averages aside.
The shame is that a game as great as Halo, somehow brings out the worse in such a large portion of it's players.
... And yes, the PA cartoon is dead on. :)
I also promise I'm done with this, I just wanted to make sure I was clear. :)
mjstew33
Sep 4, 09:14 AM
And when was the last time ThinkSecret got a rumor right???
seriously.
since the got sued they're rumors have been crap. :(
seriously.
since the got sued they're rumors have been crap. :(
firsttube
Aug 3, 04:43 PM
people are not understanding that ALL products on the banner have already been released...
aside from leopard.
aside from leopard.
DavidLeblond
Sep 12, 01:57 PM
Going through all the Free TV Show episodes I haven't yet seen and redownloading them in 640x480.
I love every bit of this new iTunes... well except for the annoying fact that all the store views now scroll horizontally.
I love every bit of this new iTunes... well except for the annoying fact that all the store views now scroll horizontally.
cooknwitha
Sep 12, 01:30 PM
Ooooo!!
I love this!! Love the new layout. Nice and tidy! Breaking up the library is good too!
I love software updates! It's like a present from Apple. :D
I love this!! Love the new layout. Nice and tidy! Breaking up the library is good too!
I love software updates! It's like a present from Apple. :D
lapeno
Mar 25, 01:26 PM
hope to see the jailbreak soon
Michaelgtrusa
Apr 12, 12:55 PM
Same discussion all the time.
People that suggest to build plants in the US aren't doing their homework.
Made in USA doesn't mean the quality is better or worse, neither does it mean that Americans would be getting jobs because of it.
Some percentage, but not all!
Quality depends on the manufacturers controls.
Mercedes, Toyota etc. are all building quality products in the US.
There are not even enough workers with low assembly qualifications, so for a plant of that size the jobs would mostly go to immigrants, NOT Americans.
Then there is money a resource that is like a rare element gas. The slightest sign of trouble and it disappears and goes where there is no trouble.
Brazil will make no trouble, neither do other countries.
The government here is too fragmented in it's opinions to unite and pass laws that make production in the US worthwhile.
For that matter none of them have economic backgrounds and just preside over status quo, Republican or Liberal.
About 95% of all the tax money coming in is spent before it even hits and then some.
As the president's friend (an accountant) said in the movie DAVE:
If I would keep my books like they (the government) do , they'd throw me in jail.
It's an international world, intertwined by money.
So, enough with this buy American or MADE IN USA stuff. It's all about money and that will be made wherever it's FREE from too many taxes, restrictions and regulations.
Then Apple should take a hard look a QT.
People that suggest to build plants in the US aren't doing their homework.
Made in USA doesn't mean the quality is better or worse, neither does it mean that Americans would be getting jobs because of it.
Some percentage, but not all!
Quality depends on the manufacturers controls.
Mercedes, Toyota etc. are all building quality products in the US.
There are not even enough workers with low assembly qualifications, so for a plant of that size the jobs would mostly go to immigrants, NOT Americans.
Then there is money a resource that is like a rare element gas. The slightest sign of trouble and it disappears and goes where there is no trouble.
Brazil will make no trouble, neither do other countries.
The government here is too fragmented in it's opinions to unite and pass laws that make production in the US worthwhile.
For that matter none of them have economic backgrounds and just preside over status quo, Republican or Liberal.
About 95% of all the tax money coming in is spent before it even hits and then some.
As the president's friend (an accountant) said in the movie DAVE:
If I would keep my books like they (the government) do , they'd throw me in jail.
It's an international world, intertwined by money.
So, enough with this buy American or MADE IN USA stuff. It's all about money and that will be made wherever it's FREE from too many taxes, restrictions and regulations.
Then Apple should take a hard look a QT.
gavin83209
Mar 18, 06:08 PM
I really hope that the Classic stays until we have a competing 128-256 GB iPod with physical buttons for at least play, fast forward and rewind. Thunderbolt would be a very nice bonus.
Now I don't know what to do. I need an iPod that can hold all of my media (just my music alone is over 100 GB) so I can bring it with me wherever I go. (I hate having to choose a portion of my music instead of just grabbing it all.) But the MacRumors Buyer's Guide says not to buy - update soon. So is Apple going to kill it or release a new version? If I wait, I might miss out on getting one. But if I get one now, I might miss out on a better model. Ugh.
Because iPod Classics use a standard 1.8" ATA-66 hard drive, they can be upgraded with the right tools. I recommend getting one now and upgrading the drive later if it gets too small.
Now I don't know what to do. I need an iPod that can hold all of my media (just my music alone is over 100 GB) so I can bring it with me wherever I go. (I hate having to choose a portion of my music instead of just grabbing it all.) But the MacRumors Buyer's Guide says not to buy - update soon. So is Apple going to kill it or release a new version? If I wait, I might miss out on getting one. But if I get one now, I might miss out on a better model. Ugh.
Because iPod Classics use a standard 1.8" ATA-66 hard drive, they can be upgraded with the right tools. I recommend getting one now and upgrading the drive later if it gets too small.
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